Hm. I wonder. Think it has anything to do with another major religion that claims to submit to God? But which seems to promote the opposite? The crushing, oppression, and outright murder of people who disagree with them?

One line in a recent sermon of TD Jakes, that people must learn submission, made me laugh. I had to immediately correct him, people must "re-learn" submission. Children are, or should be, famous for submitting and being humble (as well as humiliated). Think this has anything to do with Jesus' saying that the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to ones like children? Luke 18:9-17 Matthew 19:13-15 Mark 10:13-16

What must be taught is NOT learning how to submit, but learning how to judge right judgement. Luke 12:57 And learning how to be humble. A lesson best taught by example, not by forcing others to be humble.

If Jesus was about "submission" then he would have done his best to create hierarchies, which we can tell he was NOT trying to establish on earth.

If Jesus was about "submission" then he would NOT have "spoken to the people in parables." He would have given them bunches of rules to submit to; he would have set up clear power structures with clear lines of authority. You see, the "problem" with parables is one must think for one's self. Even if you are listening to someone else describe them or interpret them, you are still required to think, at least a little.

However, if you think all I am trying to do is trash "submission" please let me correct you; dare I say "submit" to another interpretation. ;-) I think the word submission has its place but the word "humble" is really more telling about Jesus' teachings and message.

Checking the 4 Gospels in the NIV yields only two hits on the word "submi" (to make sure I find "submission," "submit," "submitting," etc…). Interestingly they are fairly close to each other, so here is the passage, Luke 10:17-20:

The seventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name."

[Jesus] replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

Hm… you see, this is the kind of submission most people have in mind. What was it Jesus said to his disciples? Did he say, "I do not call you friends, I call you servants." Or did he say, "I do not call you servants, I call you friends." Look it up yourself: John 15:14-15.

Humility is what Jesus taught over submission. Let's analyze Jesus' saying, "greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." Luke 15:13 Let's analyze it in terms of these words: love, humility, and submission. In terms of love this shows Love of God, and Love of Friends. In terms of humility, this is an act of humility towards God and friends. In terms of submission it is submission to the advice of God; it is NOT an act of submission to man. Therefore we see that Love is the strongest word and humility is also strong in this act. Although I guess I shouldn't doubt that some will try to claim it is an act of submission to the human will to kill, but I disagree that's the intent Jesus meant.

If you search Jesus' teachings in the Gospels for the word humble and humility you will find LOTS of references. And ask yourself this: Did Jesus humble himself to humans or did Jesus submit to humans?

Which words you choose is important. If you find yourself often saying "you know what I meant" or "what I meant to say is" you really need to do some serious introspection and figure out why you are being so inaccurate or hasty with your speech. If you think it's not important, I would like to remind you that another name for Jesus is "The Word!" Also note a proverb which stresses that words are important, Proverbs 25:11. Frankly there are far too many passages I could reference which stress the importance of words and being careful with your speech.

Similarities of the Extremists

One final comment. I have also heard Worshippers of Paul often claim how important it is to submit to humans. To me this is ironic since the people who make this statement tend to be the ones who most vilify the religion I hinted at in the opening paragraph. Ironically it's the Worshippers of Paul who patently admit it's submission to human authority, while the other religion makes the claim it's "submission to God." However, as with both of them, they both believe they are God's appointed to carry out the crushing, shaming, and subjugation of others who do not do what they claim is God's will; instead following Jesus' advice, ~ "just ignore them and leave them alone." See Matthew 18:15-17.

This piece has been placed in Similarities of the Extremists since it meets some of that criteria, in particular the last paragraph. However, it should be noted I am not necessarily saying TD Jakes is an extremist. Note I have written about him before and liked some of his other sermons.

Recently I was informed by someone a "dying Frankenstein and a mad woman" were working hard to spread fear and terror across the countryside.

Then I realized what the person was talking about. Senator Dianne Feinstein's interest in maintaining the black market in marijuana, the destruction of the environment due to grow operations in national forests, the unrighteous (and expensive) imprisonment of people for using a plant product humanity has been using for thousands of years, and the mass murder of Mexicans.

In their ongoing effort to destroy our society and the societies of the world, retailers worked in cahoots with companies specializing in money (banks, credit card companies, pay day lenders, etc…) to tempt people to buy junky stuff they don't need made by near-slaves in foreign lands.

The ignorant politicians and mega-corpses continued their idiotic, backwards, misguided and wrong hatred of marijuana (and other all-natural plants), with their lies characterizing them as leading to reduced productivity, since as they proclaimed, "money is the only thing that matters! We worship money! Long Live Money! DAMN God to HELL for making living things that people like more than money and those who do not worship money!"

However, true-to-form, all their actions are doing is destroying the very foundation which their religion of money rests. Instead of employing people, instead of paying people a fair wage, instead of replenishing the environment, instead of taking days of rest, instead of lowering prices so their products are affordable to more people, instead of humbling themselves like a recent large corporation did, they continue to exalt themselves.

"We can't get rich fast enough! We can't enslave you fast enough! And just to prove that we hate God we will have Christmas in July to show that we only care about money, not that day dream Jesus myth. In fact we can't wait to give each other more presents once we kill off the foul men who tell us our ways are evil and are causing all sorts of problems. Yes, it will be us who fulfill the prophecy of Revelation 11:10.

"Buying and selling is the only thing that matters. We also plead with you to get married and divorced and remarried so you can give more gifts. Please also remember that Jesus commands everyone to 'eat, drink, and be merry.'"

The Banks spoke up, "and we too are helping topple societies as well. We were handed ungodly sums of money because we failed at our basic mission (cough cough wink), and we were only too proud to use lots of that money to reward ourselves. Even though we were forgiven our failures (cough cough wink), we are busy exploding the presence of one of the Devil's favorite toys, the Pay Day Lenders. We were forgiven, but we and our pawns will refuse to forgive you!

"This is because we are desperate to be tortured for our evil deeds! Snicker. Just see the parable of Jesus in Matthew 18:23-35, yes we were forgiven millions, billions, hundreds of billions! But we refuse to forgive you ten dollars! You dirty scum! Just wait and see if that fairy tale Jesus of yours shows up like you mental wimps keep on saying. Ours is the real Prosperity Gospel you dimwits. Ha ha ha."

As unemployment handouts dry up for people, they are complaining about a lack of jobs. But don't these people realize that we needed to defy our own Declaration of Independence by make sure the military has more power than civilians? And not just here, but we need to force a militaristic attitude on all countries.

And to make sure that happens, yellow politicians have made sure we are in an untold number of wars around the planet. The more generals and secret agents we create the more we can drain money from everyone else.

So stop your whining over lack of food, having your car or house repossessed, and your other unpatriotic complaints. Don't you realize we need to tax you to the heavens and borrow money from foreign governments enough money so we can pay our retired generals $10,000+ per month?

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And if you show up and say, like in some of the comments on the page at the Reuters article I link to, and try to take me to task similarly:

… Compared to the excessive pay handed out to the top ranking officials of most major corporations these days, I’d say this isn’t too terrible.

… The pension plan he would receive of $149k a year is chump change compared to what other high ranking offcials in the private (ie large cap ceo’s) and government sector are getting for their pension plans in our country today.

… Yes, 100,000 plus per year is a lot compared to the average salary, but it should not be compared to an average salary. It should be compared to CEO of a major corporation, and then some, and feeling the personal responsibility responsible for the lives of many young men and women under his command.

You will have no sympathy for me. It is that exact mindset which has driven our country morally, intellectually, and financially bankrupt.

Just because CEO's and other executives of U.S. corporations are raping the citizens is no excuse for government employees to do the same!

Please see this graph:

How Does Executive Pay in the U.S. Compare to the Rest of the World?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/businessdesk/2010/07/how-does-executive-pay-...

And before you jump to all the dumbest conclusions possible, as though I am saying the lowest paid employee should now be earning the exact same as the highest paid, that is not what I am saying. I am saying there is an obscene and unjustifiable disparity.

But since I'm a religious guy, and don't believe in violence, etc… I just try to take it in stride. So my message to you all: repent and bear the fruits of repentance! Be sure to check out the parable of Lazarus and the beggar to see what you have coming. Remember, it's not just the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet that are tossed in the fiery lake of burning sulfur, its his butt-kissing angels too.

I was watching a video interpretation of Genesis a few days ago and something struck me which hasn't before.

We're told that God commanded Adam and Eve "not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil." [Genesis 2:17]

Since, at that point, they had not eaten from it, it only makes sense they had no understanding — no knowledge — of good and evil. And since they did not understand right or wrong — good and evil — how can their eating the fruit be sinful?

Ok, so I can imagine someone saying, "because God told them not to." But I repeat, if they had no understanding that disobeying God was wrong/evil, and that doing what God said was right/good, then again, it doesn't seem to count as a sin.

Hm, so let me brainstorm a bit here and explore things.

The Men of Lawlessness continued their push to prevent them or their overlords from being regulated.

"The only good regulation is the one that allows me to drain all the money from your accounts in to mine!" mocked one Man of Lawlessness.

A woman chimed in, "hey, don't be sexist please! There are such things as 'women of lawlessness' too! Didn't you know that the CEO of Mystery Inc. is a woman?

"We have been remarkably successful these past few administrations, the past few decades, and especially the past few years in forcing both major political parties to do things they hated about the other parties.

"The Republicans exploded the size and spending of government under George W. Bush, and most recently we managed to get Barack H. Obama to force citizens to become customers of the for-profit 'health-care' insurance industry! It's pure magic! Pure genius! Pure money worship!"

"Money was meant to be a weapon to abuse others with! 'In God We Trust' Ha! I couldn't laugh harder! In my huge bank account I trust!"

Another Man of Lawlessness commented, "it's not that we're against regulations, while we would rather there be none, it's much less costly to do business when gouging people, defrauding them, and the like are legal; but in the absence of no regulations we would then prefer massively complex regulations.

"You see, if the regulations are so byzantine that no one understands them, then it's nearly the same as no regulations. Why? Because complex regulations are not followed; often, even the lobbyists who write them for the legislators do not understand them.

"And when you have 5, 10, 15, or even 30 government employees overseeing hundreds or thousands of companies with millions of employees, you really think they can learn the new massively complex regulations or have any hope of enforcing them? Ha ha ha!

Blame me for illegal immigrants

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/09/navarrette.illegal.immigrants/inde...

Why does the United States have so much illegal immigration?

I know the answer. It's my fault. It's because of me, and tens of millions of other Americans just like me. We create the demand for illegal immigrant labor not because of anything we do but because of all the things that we will not do -- at any wage. Even as someone who juggles several jobs, I have to admit that my work ethic -- especially for hard, physical labor -- is a distant second to that of my immigrant grandfather who came from Mexico legally in the early 1900's.

So he seems to be saying he's lazy and some jobs are beneath him. Hm… He seems to indicate that no one in the U.S.A. is capable or willing to sweat. He seems to be saying that U.S. citizens think they are so great that we should not do certain jobs but only hire sub-human societies or imports. Of course the main failing of this logic is, what happens when those immigrants adopt his attitude and start thinking those jobs are beneath them and should be reserved for other sub-humans? Like a massive pyramid scheme, an even larger number of new immigrants have to be imported or granted citizenship to perform them. Then what happens when they adopt that snobby attitude? Like a massive pyramid scheme, an even larger number of new immigrants has to be let in, or granted citizenship. You can see how grossly unsustainable this is. We're already chopping down all the forests, making many animals extinct due to eating too many of them or otherwise destroying part of their habitat or food chain.

I have seen that awful attitude. It needs to go away and never come back! The attitude that since I do my own yard work, or I am not the high-paid person, I must be an idiot. I've seen it from white people towards me (I'm a white guy), I've seen it from blacks towards me, and I've seen it from latinos towards me, even kids of latinos towards me. It's very sad. It's very mean!

He goes on…

Introduction

I, for one, can not say I'm interested in hearing of people's sexual exploits or interests. I don't ask for that information, but it is sometimes volunteered to me. For the most part, it is not exactly breaking news to me. But I do my best to follow the Golden Rule and treat others with the respect I would like to be treated with. Generally I just change the subject.

I have been hit on by gay men. I don't like it. I don't make lewd comments to women, I don't "accidentally" bump into them in stores, on the street, or wherever, in order to start conversations or relationships. But that has happened to me on more than a few occasions. I ignore it and move on.

But it is ignorant to assume that all homosexuals go around hitting on others of their same gender, just like it's ignorant to think that because some heterosexual men who act like animals in a rut, represent all men.

But I have to wonder why the U.S. Military feels the need to expel people who tell others they are gay.

"God Told Us to Kill You"

Perhaps this most recent story of the guy from Kansas who thinks God put him in charge of murdering people he disagrees with, sheds some light on this matter.

As I've begun pointing out in the series, "Similarities of the Extremists," we know there are radical-nut-case-religious-people who ignore God, like when God said "vengeance is mine," [Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19-21] and they take the law into their own hands and kill people because they think it's God's will.

Clearly there are some people who have the mistaken belief that they are going to be punished for "allowing" others they consider to be sinners, to go on doing whatever it is they're doing. Even when those things do not involve the "non sinner" or harm anyone else.

Clearly there are some people who call themselves Christians who despise Jesus' teaching and want to revert the world to live according to their version of Old Testament Law, stoning, shaming, etc… "sinners." It is my belief there are many preachers who have undeserved influence over our Military and Civilian leaders.

Current Working Theory

So because if you tell them you are gay, they feel the Devil instructing them they must retaliate against you, and perhaps stone you to death. But part of their conscience acknowledges that's wrong, so they are very conflicted, pull a Sergeant Shutlz, and thus "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

Down with the thugs who feel they have to force their wills on others.

Another Evil Religion of Hate

We also see an Evil Religion of Hate in the Drug War. They are Thug Addicts who despise God. They shove on society the recent human tradition of imprisoning people because they have plants God made. They are ruining our whole planet, and causing lots of people to suffer. "Eye for eye and tooth for tooth" is supposed to be the most base form of punishment. But someone who uses medical marijuana or someone who uses peyote or mushrooms to worship God is not causing harm to others. However, those people are subject to INTENSE EVIL by the Thug Addicts who worship the Devil.

For many thousands of years humanity has used the cannabis plant, also known as marijuana, for medicine, in worshipping God, and for its amazing fiber. But because a small number of small minded racists, we now have a planet-wide Evil Religion of Hate that destroys people's lives because they use plants God put here for us to use.

And as we see in 1 Timothy 4:1-6, this was prophesied.

Down with the hateful thugs!

Isn't it sad, sick, ironic, and totally predictable* that those who think they are God's gift to humanity and claim to be "holding back" the forces of sin, are in fact the very ones who are promoting evil the most?!

* And even predicted in the Bible.

Here's the easiest passage to share with you. Just read all of Matthew 23, notice how Jesus rages against those who block the entrance to God's kingdom.

Yes, the "law givers" are the focus of Jesus' rage. But who does that mean these days? Well, in the U.S. it obviously includes those in the highest levels of government. But it also includes religious leaders. And since lobbyists and corporations have gross control over our govt. they too count as those controlling our government's laws. (Even though many of them are the "men of lawlesness" who are doing their best to gut regulations, or make them so complex that no one understands or follows them.)

Many? Most? All? will be joining the murderous suicide bombers who think they are doing God's will by blowing others up, joining those who trained them and egged them on, and even those who stayed silent but thought "good." Read the Old Testament prophecies, and what Jesus said.

Is this just some blind rage against all politicians? No. Actually it's due to various preaching I've heard on TV. By those who are desperate to fulfill the prophecies of Jesus.

Today we begin a new series of essays under the heading "Similarities of the Extremists."

There is a strange irony with many people who are extreme on various issues. Even though they say they are far apart from people they consider their opposites or opposition, often they have a lot in common with each other.

Instead of trying to write every instance of what I've noticed over the years and put it all in one essay I will just write short essays and post them under this section.

Since many of these extremists are either directly or tangentially destroying the world, this section will be placed under "World Destruction."

Coming soon!

Down with the religious "leaders" who preach their version of politics more than feeding the souls of their congregations!

Down with the religious teachers who stand in front of "believers" and beat the true believers while encouraging the wolves in sheep's clothing!

I know this is not exactly breaking news at the moment, not that it was when he uttered it, but it's been jabbing me every day since I heard it, so it's finally time to write it down.

On the PBS NewsHour's December 1, 2009 show, Arizona Senator John McCain (Republican) said something that made me cringe. You might still be able to download the segment. You can fast forward to 2:55 to hear the section I quote below.

Gwen Ifil is describing the (then proposed) "surge" of troops in to Afghanistan and Pakistan. First there is a Democratic politician quoted, then McCain:

Ifil: Most Republicans have urged the President to send more troops. But Arizona Senator John McCain, Mr. Obama's opponent in last fall's election, offered a mixed review.

McCain: The way that you win wars is to break the enemy's will.

That is just absurd! Wasn't he tortured? Wasn't he against torture? What is the definition of torture? Isn't it to "break the enemy's will" and get them to spill some beans or convince them to be a double agent?

Why is it our government hires people from foreign lands who supposedly write well on the Internet, and those people end up killing themselves and U.S. citizens?

What about the people of our own country who write well?

Is it because we want the U.S. to not crash and burn? Is it because were are not trying to trick our fellow citizens, enslave them with debt, or kill them?

Is it because we write concisely and to-the-point, and our government only seems to hire people whose writing is as clear as mud?

That's Jesus to many of us. Isa to others.

Instead of letting better organizations than the war machine work to help foreign countries, instead of admitting the wars around the world don't do much more than fill the pockets of the rich and stomp God's green earth to death, instead of admitting that all these wars are a vain attempt to make certain plants extinct, it seems Back Obama recently confirmed our worst fears.

Summarizing what he said, we are just a nation of war. It was something like that. He believes in only war. We should just focus on war. It was something like that.

Since I don't remember when, it seems our country is all about war. The military run our government even though they pretend not to, sounds like Revelation 13 to me. It also sounds like Daniel 7:7.

It also sounds like the exact opposite of what the Founding Fathers wanted. In the Declaration of Independence they were angry at the King of Britain for working to make the military authority higher than the civilian authority. This is obviously where we are today, and the U.S. is clearly trying to force that mindset on other countries around the world.

The irony is that it is making us less safe; I thought Brother Barack knew that. Isn't that why his first interviews and speaking engagements seemed to be in the Middle East?

Here are some other possible headlines:

Some TV Preachers Work Hard to Strain Out One Gnat Then Swallow Camels Whole

Some TV Preachers Work Hard to Claw at the Specks in Others' Eyes While Overlooking the Logs in Their Own

If you want to know what I'm talking about, then you should probably turn on religious TV stations once in a while and read the Bible, in particular the New Testament, and in particular the books: John, Luke, Mark, and Matthew.

I guess I should add that this not only applies to some personalities I've seen on TV, but a number of them who are not.

Outraged over the government's interest in "Net Neutrality" wireless carriers shouted in protest.

They issued their demands:

• We demand to continue overselling our bandwidth.
• We demand to have way more customers than can access our network at once.
• We demand to charge them all full price and hefty premiums for the privilege of thinking that.
• We demand to continue to waste untold sums on TV advertising and other advertising telling everyone how great we are and that there is competition in our industry!

"Look what happened to the banks when they loaned out so much more money than they had, and insured vastly larger assets than they ever had hopes to cover."

"We demand to be like failed civilizations who had (and have) so many more mouths to feed than food, so many more people to house than shelter available or resources to build shelters, so many more people to clothe than animal skins to provide them with…" the spokesman huffed and puffed and ran out of steam temporarily.

"We demand to have more customers than we can accommodate and charge them all huge amounts as though they could access the network at any time they please! It is totally Un-American to do otherwise! Do you hate capitalism? Are you a dirty commie?!"

"Everyone knows the U.S. is filthy rich, this is why we charge so much more money than every other country on the planet for the exact same products and services! We demand to bankrupt them!"

"We refuse to take responsibility for our actions and will continue a smoke-and-mirrors game blaming others for our faults! We demand to have more customers than we can accommodate and charge them all the most expensive prices possible! Our executives and shareholders — and handsomely-enriched Congressional lackeys — demand nothing less and they're the only ones who matter!"

Brief Background

A while ago, I wrote an essay, "TD Jakes Preaches, Abraham Listens to God, Doesn't Worship Paper." Part of the essay — the beginning — was devoted to a particular sermon delivered by that man and how great it was. I'd been meaning to write that essay for a while, but after seeing his sermon I just couldn't stand it any more and rushed out an essay. Not one of my better pieces of writing. However, God recently showed me it was an accurate interpretation I was trying to share, after I read some from Deuteronomy.

Strategic Side Note

But first an interesting side note that's totally relevant. I wrote that essay nearly one year to the day before TD Jakes' house exploded, or at least part of it! And you know what? If he hadn't changed his rut-like routine, he would have been blown up too. In the video I link to below he describes himself as "very systematic, extremely systematic," and says "every Sunday morning around six o'clock I go in to a certain part of my house to get dressed, and at six-thirty, one of my deacons comes to pick me up. Every Sunday morning I'm in the same room at the same time, every Sunday morning."

He goes on to describe how he felt he should change his routine. If he had not he would have been in the exact spot that blew up! You can see and hear him describe it in his own words by downloading the video, "Manpower 2009, Pt 3." It is definitely another powerful message from the man.

Don't Worship the Dry Tree

All of that goes to support the lesson I tried to share in the previous essay, we are to listen to God, who is alive, and who talks to us.

WE ARE NOT TO WORSHIP THE BIBLE!

I used a quote from Luke, Luke 23:27-31. Here is the last part, a quote from Jesus (NIV):

“… For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?”

Bruce Barton

“When you’re through changing, you’re through.”

Who is/was Bruce Barton?* A fundraiser for Barack Obama? A left-wing nut bent on turning the U.S. into another form of government? An anti-democracy or anti-federalist nut-case closely watched by the CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security? The anti-Christ? Someone who hated Jesus?

Isn't it ironic that so many people who mistakenly take Cain's indignant statement to God—"am I my brother's keeper?"—as though it was a command, seem to be the very ones shouting the loudest against an intelligent and compassionate healthcare system, like every other modern society has? One that is more interested in keeping people healthy and fixing ills quickly versus making executives rich and enriching their shareholders? Isn't this so much bigger than a miniscule portion of the population seeking enormous financial gain from driving so many to bankruptcy?

It's written that God asked Cain where Abel was. Well, Cain had just attacked his brother and killed him. [Genesis 4:8-9] God asks, "Where's your brother Abel?" Cain replies, obviously guilty and indignant, "I don't know. Am I my brother's keeper?"

Some people take Cain's statement as a directive that we are to be keepers of fellow humans. But what kind of keepers?

Why are so many people who call themselves Christians so busy looking for the anti-Christ?

It's it written in Revelation (ch. 11-13), foretold by Yeshua/Jesus (Matt 17, Mark 9, Luke 1), and alluded to in the Old Testament (Malachi 4) that Elijah returns and preaches before the anti-Christ shows up.

But I don't hear one word about Christians trying to see who is "the Elijah who is to come" (see Matt, Mark, Luke refs. above) or figuring out from scripture what he might say or do.

Focusing on Finding the Devil

Most of what I hear is a drumbeat of people trying to pinpoint the anti-Christ, calling various forms of government tools of the Devil, and misstating that in Revelation there will be a "one world currency." In fact it does not say that at all. Read the end of Revelation 13 and you will not read anything about one world currency; here's what you'll read: the mean creatures being foretold force their wills on everyone and that includes having some kind of "mark" that allows them to buy or sell. Here are the relevant passages, 14-18 (NIV):

Dear People,

I would appreciate some suggestions on where to move to.

I am exceedingly discouraged by the town I live, the state I live, and even the country I live in.

I will kick the dust off my shoes as I leave each one.

I am a hard worker, love to laugh, love to play guitar and sing, love nature and "the outdoors," I've been recyling since the 1970's, I've been gardening since the 1980's, I've been a computer user since 1979, more info upon request.

Help!

Dear Fellow Christians,

Please DO NOT EVER chant, "Death to ________." (Anything.)

We are to pray for our enemies and people who persecute us. That means to pray they repent, pray good things for them, etc…

Just like Haman lead around Mordecai in the book of Esther, this is the outcome we will see.

The mean-spirited and hypocrites will be your servants. They used your name and things you liked as curse words; Old Testament prophecy claims things will be the opposite, once justice is realized on earth (not by human hands), you will have an even better name! The things they hated will be shown to be superior.

In the mean time, turn the other cheek, do not stoop to their level of slander. Ignore them. If you must "battle" them, then use facts, and avoid being like them: trying to murder goodness with lies, slander, and guilt-by-association reasoning.

This morning someone visited the website, coming from Google and was searching for

help for hyper religious people

and was directed to my letter to Overly Hyper-Religious People.

However, it may not have offered the seeker the information s/he was hoping for.

Best Help

So what is the best help for hyper-religious people? Probably the return of Jesus so he can take away the hyper-religious people he wants with him. :-)

And the hyper-religious people he doesn't want with him, he'll leave on earth so they can contemplate their ways and be refined.

Then the non-religious people will see the difference.

Another Answer

However, this still may not be the answer the seeker was searching for…

Without knowing the circumstances surrounding the hyper-religiosity—the age of the person, the religion, relationships the person is currently involved in, and so forth—it's not fair for me to give a list of "To Do's."

Probably What You Were Looking For

However, the best thing you can do is to talk about it. You may share your feelings too. With regard to the specifics of the religion, the less accurate it is, the less likely it will withstand scrutiny, so ask questions and get them to question themselves.

You may write what you want below in the Comments section.